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Also WB can have a bit of a play with their characters and the directors they are linked too.
Marvel is no better.
But we expect them to be better.
Right now there are two major takes on comic books, and comic book movies, each combining a bunch of traits that are not necessarily related, but have been lumped together. These are more general, vague groupings.
The first is the “Old” approach, which views straight white men (largely teenagers and young adults) as the Target Audience for Comic Books. This approach makes books largely featuring Straight White Men, with women largely serving the role of eye candy. A defining feature of these comics seems to be the desire to tell “Serious” stories, interpreted as dark and gritty stories that mistake cynicism and anger for depth.
This approach is currently associated largely with DC, especially in the wake of the New 52 and movies like Man of Steel.
The second approach is the “New” model, which sees comic readers as a more diverse group seeking stories about a diverse set of characters. These books are drawn to portray women as powerful heroes, rather than as eye candy to titillate male readers. This approach also rejects the idea that serious storytelling requires non-stop cynicism and darkness. Their stories are written to include humor, hope, idealism, and fun.
This approach is generally associated with Marvel. On the comics front they’ve got a whole lineup of female-led comics, plus big moves like making Sam Wilson the new Captain America. On the Cinema side they’re the one making idealistic, “Fun” movies like Guardians of the Galaxy, compared to “Man of Steel”, which seemed to many to be a betrayal of the idealism behind Superman (it should be noted the MCU has it’s heroes killing people left and right, but there is a different context there).
So, remember how the two “Approaches” contain a lot of concepts that are not necessarily linked (Grim Dark stories and a focus on Male Protagonists vs Fun Hopeful stories with a more diverse cast), well people are mixing things up.
Marvel seems more progressive because they are making fun movies, which puts them on the side of the “New”, more progressive approach.
Mind you, Marvel has also made a good track record of including capable, non-sexualized women in it’s MCU stuff, but it still hasn’t gotten around to even announcing a movie starring anything but a white man. While DC seems to be mired in the 90’s, Marvel is showing all the signs of fully embracing the new approach.
except, you know, for actually making a movie starring somebody besides a white man (And Ensemble Casts like The Avengers or GoTG don’t count. Especially when the team is overwhelmingly male).
have you ever read a DC comic in your life? DC right now has just as many female led books as Marvel, has twice as many female written books, and if you think that Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batwoman, Batgirl, and Lois Lane, among others are just there to titillate readers???? I would agree that Harley Quinn is sexualized in her comic at the moment, but she’s also written as an intelligent and capable anti-hero in her own right.
You’re right, Marvel is no better, but their comics are literally no different than DC’s, who has just as much idealism as well as darkness in their books. The New 52 was rocky for a couple years, but there are just as many “fun” books as there are in Marvel. There is no “old” and “new” here.
Now, I’m not saying DC doesn’t fuck up a lot, but the only difference between All-New Marvel Now! and the New 52 is press coverage. Marvel regularly goes on Colbert and The View to promote these books, while DC keeps the press at arm’s length. And trust me, I’ve experienced both first hand.
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